Fact: Christian apologists are a bunch of fucking liars so the question about miscarriages and aborted fetuses really gives them constipation. It is their belief that human life begins at conception so when they are told that 50% of pregnancies end in miscarriage it would take a stick of TNT to dislodge their constipated brains. When told about the maternal death rate in the filthy US and reminded of the maternal death rate in other underdeveloped countries and the maternal death rate before modern medicine even the Hoover dam could stop the confluence of verbal diarrhea.
According the Christian mythology, the only way are person's soul can make it to heaven is by accepting Jesus Christ as their lord and savior. A fetus can't do that. Here is how they explain that away. They suck God's cock so much that they will never admit that God is a baby killing machine who told Jesus to fling miscarried and aborted fetuses into hell only to be tortured without mercy for all eternity. These lying sacks of pus have their lying tongues so far up God's ass they will not even question the true wickedness of the God who they pretend to love so much.
So lady you had a miscarriage but you thought your menstrual cycle was a bit out of kilter and you thought blood clot sitting on top of one of your turds in the toilet was a small blood clot. Are you going to fish is out and have a funeral for it? Women have early term miscarriages and miscarriages throughout all phases pregnancy but there are almost never funerals. In spite of that the dishonest Christian apologetics continue.
9 of the 10 states with the highest maternal mortality are in the Bible Belt!
- Louisiana (58.1 per 100k)
- Georgia (48.4 per 100k)
- Indiana (43.6 per 100k)
- New Jersey (38.1 per 100k)
- Arkansas (37.5 per 100k)
- Alabama (36.4 per 100k)
- Missouri (34.6 per 100k)
- Texas (34.5 per 100k)
- South Carolina (27.9 per 100k)
- Arizona (27.3 per 100k)
Below is some bullshit by a Christian apologist that I will shred.
1. Every human being conceived is made in the image of God.
“So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them...” (Genesis 1:27)
1. Your little one was created by the Father in His image. And His image likeness is goodness and love. 2. Furthermore, Jesus came for all people, so His death and resurrection was a sacrifice not just for the born, but the unborn. 3. Your child is redeemable.
There's a boatload of bullshit here.
1. Most people suck the the notion that God created humans in his image proves that God sucks.
2. Sacrifice? According to your BuyBull Jesus was "dead" for around 36 hours so therefore there was no "sacrifice". Not only that, God is all knowing so he already knew who would be going to heaven and who would be going to hell long before he created the "heavens and the earth".
3. The only way not to end up in hell is to accept Jesus and until a person is sentient that can't happen.
2. There is grace for infants and children.
There is this idea called the “age of accountability” that is widely accepted by Christians. It states that there is grace for children until they come to an age of truly understanding right and wrong—to be able to comprehend grace and salvation. Though this term is not specifically used in Scripture, there are a few verses that support it.
In 2 Samuel 12, David loses his infant son. When he learns of the child’s death, his servants are surprised that he gets up from his fasting and weeping. Then David expresses, “...I shall go to him, but he will not return to me” (2 Samuel 12:23). This implies that David believed he would be reunited with his child one day. This is weak and dishonest and if it implies anything it implies that David will be going to the body.
In another supporting passage, Isaiah 7:15-16 indicates that children aren’t held responsible for their actions until they reach a certain age. That age is not given in Scripture, and it’s likely different for each child. 1. However, a baby is certainly considered innocent by this reference. 1. According to the BuyBull, we all care Adam's sin.
2. In one last reference, we see in Luke 18 that Jesus loves children. He says this as he blesses them in verses 15-16: “People were also bringing babies to Jesus for him to place his hands on them. When the disciples saw this, they rebuked them. But Jesus called the children to him and said, ‘Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these.’”
Jesus says that these babies belong to the kingdom of God. Why would Jesus bless a baby if they were destined for hell?
2. Had these babies not died and had fetuses not been miscarried or aborted most of them would have done something in their lives that would have rubbed God the wrong way and BAM! They'd all be going to hell eventually. If I were a woman I'd get knocked up all the time and have abortions so that all my kids would not have to suffer the bullshit that come from this life. I'd put them all in Heaven if I thought God was good and heaven was a good place. Many mothers would suffer the agony of the damned for their children. And one more thing... FUCK YOU GOD!
3. God works all things together for good.
“Meanwhile, the moment we get tired in the waiting, God’s Spirit is right alongside helping us along. If we don’t know how or what to pray, it doesn’t matter. He does our praying in and for us, making prayer out of our wordless sighs, our aching groans. He knows us far better than we know ourselves, knows our pregnant condition, and keeps us present before God. That’s why we can be so sure that every detail in our lives of love for God is worked into something good.” (Romans 8:26-28)
1. We see throughout the Bible God’s care and grace for infants and children. This extends to the unborn, who were created in the image of God. Your unborn baby is in heaven with Jesus, and that’s a joy we don’t know yet. But one day, for those who are believers, we can look forward to a reunion in His presence.
1. What we see throughout the Bible and in our lives the cruel biting maladies God inflicts upon all living things. God had on of his many hissy fits and drown nearly everything on earth including babies and pregnant women. Oh, one more thing, FUCK YOU GOD!
Please know, although the darkness is overwhelming, there is light. There is goodness and hope to be found. There is a beautiful and loving God who wants to scoop you up in His strong arms and hold you close.
Although, in dark times, we often want to pull away from Him, it’s in these trials that we must press in even harder. Pressing in is where we find Him and hear His voice—see His goodness. Because God is good and does work all things for good, even if we can’t see it.
Believe me, I know it’s hard to see how good can come from your loss. Who knows why your baby passed on but God? Whatever the case may be, you still get to be the parent of that beautiful child. And, however brief, your child’s life brought joy to this world.
What the Bible says about Abortion
- Abortion is not murder. A fetus is not considered a human life.
- If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life. -- Exodus 21:22-23
- The Bible places no value on fetuses or infants less than one month old.
- And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver. -- Leviticus 27:6
- Fetuses and infants less than one month old are not considered persons.
- Number the children of Levi after the house of their fathers, by their families: every male from a month old and upward shalt thou number them. And Moses numbered them according to the word of the LORD. -- Numbers 3:15-16
- And the LORD said unto Moses, Number all the firstborn of the males of the children of Israel from a month old and upward, and take the number of their names. -- Numbers 3:40
- God sometimes approves of killing fetuses.
- And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. -- Numbers 31:15-17
(Some of the non-virgin women must have been pregnant. They would have been killed along with their unborn fetuses.) - Give them, O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. -- Hosea 9:14
- Yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb. -- Hosea 9:16
- Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up. -- Hosea 13:16
- God sometimes kills newborn babies to punish their parents.
- Because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die. -- 2 Samuel 12:14
- God sometimes causes abortions by cursing unfaithful wives.
- The priest shall say unto the woman, The LORD make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the LORD doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell. And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen. ...
And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people. And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed. -- Numbers 5:21-21, 27-28 - God's law sometimes requires the execution (by burning to death) of pregnant women.
- Tamar thy daughter in law hath played the harlot; and also, behold, she is with child by whoredom. And Judah said, Bring her forth, and let her be burnt. -- Genesis 38:24
- The Psalmist prays that his enemies are aborted.
- Let every one of them pass away: like the untimely birth of a woman, that they may not see the sun. -- Psalm 58:8
What the Bible says about Pregnancy
Give them, O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. Hosea 9:14
Yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb. Hosea 9:16
Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up. Hosea 13:16
We don't know what happens to miscarried and aborted fetuses in Christian mythology but if Jehovah's past behavior is any indication of what he will do in the future, we ate all fucked.
What the Bible says about Predestination
Our eternal destiny was determined by God before we were born. He sends some of us to heaven, and others to hell. We have no say in the matter.And as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate.... Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. Romans 8:29-30
For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;) .... For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction. Romans 9:11-22
He hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will. Ephesians.1:4-5
God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned. 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began. 2 Timothy1:9
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation. Jude 1:4
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